tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.comments2023-05-08T16:21:57.297+01:00Girl in the MoonKatie Birkwoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16430148493526943528noreply@blogger.comBlogger546125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-29409662434821311392017-01-17T14:55:15.758+00:002017-01-17T14:55:15.758+00:00Hi! I haven't found any evidence at all to sup...Hi! I haven't found any evidence at all to support the suggestion that Dee signed his name in a way resembling '007'. I've written a short article about it, which will appear later in the year. I'll post here when it does.Katie Birkwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16430148493526943528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-35921319500516843952017-01-05T21:44:43.243+00:002017-01-05T21:44:43.243+00:00Hi there, I thought I'd posted a comment but p...Hi there, I thought I'd posted a comment but perhaps not. Was wondering whether you had managed to find any solid evidence for the 007 story?ORMUShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05630745216328484598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-49392918415350487172015-04-12T08:09:47.108+01:002015-04-12T08:09:47.108+01:00Further paper from Christine May on the Enterprise...Further paper from Christine May on the Enterprise Centre here http://www2.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/CommitteeMinutes/Committees/AgendaItem.aspx?agendaItemID=11381<br />SuzanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-27073512915976042412014-06-13T14:42:16.209+01:002014-06-13T14:42:16.209+01:00I thought it was called the World Series SoccerBal...I thought it was called the World Series SoccerBall Tourney. But then, I could be wrong. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-81054422734909695422013-06-21T09:43:17.616+01:002013-06-21T09:43:17.616+01:00Hi Alice,
Thank you for reminding me Ross' na...Hi Alice,<br /><br />Thank you for reminding me Ross' name. I'll add him above.<br /><br />KatieKatie Birkwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16430148493526943528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-12396313620084416832013-06-20T19:20:55.000+01:002013-06-20T19:20:55.000+01:00Glad to hear you enjoyed the Valentine's Day ...Glad to hear you enjoyed the Valentine's Day walk. Thanks for the further examples and sharing your thoughts about them. By the way, Ross MacFarlane should be given the credit for the mighty fine introduction to the Wellcome Library! <br /><br />Alice Ford-Smith Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03277074310650660194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-29022223095934793082013-06-19T09:11:08.190+01:002013-06-19T09:11:08.190+01:00Thanks for the plug for HLF! And also, great answe...Thanks for the plug for HLF! And also, great answers!Katie Flanaganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14319966255775108950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-39975032906312326152013-03-03T20:07:25.469+00:002013-03-03T20:07:25.469+00:00Melinda,
The RLUK Hidden Collections report does ...Melinda,<br /><br />The RLUK Hidden Collections report does include in its remit archival and manuscript collections held by libraries, although it acknowledges that some of the questions seemed to imply books only, and it therefore doesn't give a fair representation of the stats. Of course, it's no surprise (sadly) that archival material held by separate archives also clearly is also often 'hidden'. It would great to have collective work on this across the sectors.<br /><br />Thank you for the link to and info about the National cataloguing grants review. This programme was mentioned (as was archives accreditation) at the BL PAC event on Friday (and possibly in the RLUK report, or the recent OCLC one - I've read too much in a short space f time to remember what's what...). Non-catalogued material was identified as a serious issue there as well. Do watch out for my post on that day, which threw up such a lot of useful stuff.<br /><br />KatieKatie Birkwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16430148493526943528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-48122825059403653602013-03-03T19:36:17.133+00:002013-03-03T19:36:17.133+00:00Really interesting stuff Katie, especially glad to...Really interesting stuff Katie, especially glad to have caught up with your session.<br /><br />There's obviously a lot of crossover to archives here, where the situation is similar. I'd encourage people to reuse the messages of the National Cataloguing grants programme 5 year review (2011 but still relevant). Key messages include cataloguing 'uncovers hidden treasures' [of course], but also 'brings people and collections together', 'opens up new opportunities', 'drive scholarship and research' and 'enriches communities'. Much broader messages that resound with parent organisations [full text is downloadable from the scheme homepage - open for applications right now, if people have strategic projects for archive material identified: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/archives-sector/cataloguing-grants-programme.htm].<br /><br />I'm obviously keen to promote the new Archive Service Accreditation programme as well [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/archives-sector/accreditation.htm], and there are such clear crossovers here with some of the messages. Among those that leapt out at me are a) document your plans for collections [whether care, description or development] - don't leave it all in one person's head; <br />b) Analyse and make use of the data you have about your users and potential users - the point you make about bringing enquiries staff together with collections staff<br /><br /><br />And, of course, c) if you're eligible - and many research libraries are - consider whether applying for/working towards accreditation for your archive service [i.e. a service holding and making accessible archive collections] would help get the issue on the agenda. Helping to make hidden problems in hidden collections less hidden!<br /><br />MelindaMelindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13737117675887549220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-60534308993912040022013-03-03T18:46:14.483+00:002013-03-03T18:46:14.483+00:00ooh great, I was attempting to follow your BLPAC t...ooh great, I was attempting to follow your BLPAC tweets about it on Friday but kept having to leave the house (no smart phone) so it was slightly disjointed!Katie Flanaganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14319966255775108950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-65671069022056184052013-03-03T18:39:56.713+00:002013-03-03T18:39:56.713+00:00You're welcome! I've a post in the works ...You're welcome! I've a post in the works about the BL PAC conference on Friday, too, on the back of the publication of their Knowing the Need report. That was also a very useful day - so watch this space for that!Katie Birkwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16430148493526943528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-18522598722894923322013-03-03T16:07:45.783+00:002013-03-03T16:07:45.783+00:00Thanks for blogging about the session Katie - I...Thanks for blogging about the session Katie - I'd planned to go to that one, but didn't make it in the end so very useful to be able to read/listen to what happened!Katie Flanaganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14319966255775108950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-36025128229861369452012-12-13T19:57:35.185+00:002012-12-13T19:57:35.185+00:00Dozens of books on ebay auctions finishing tonight...Dozens of books on ebay auctions finishing tonight ex Wigan, mainly in need of a lot of TLC.<br />http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/gagebooks/m.html?item=370707078449&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562<br />http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/worthydownbooks/m.html?hash=item416c2d632b&item=280987788075&pt=Antiquarian_Books_UK&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2562David Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-28627979998211885142012-12-13T19:36:05.958+00:002012-12-13T19:36:05.958+00:00I bought a copy of Monasticon Anglicanum (Bohn'...I bought a copy of Monasticon Anglicanum (Bohn's edition) ex Wigan Library 2-3 years ago. If you want to know what's been sold, why not put in an FOI request?David Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-59162224411759940282012-12-13T19:31:45.851+00:002012-12-13T19:31:45.851+00:00Here's grist to your mill - given in memory of...Here's grist to your mill - given in memory of a vicar of Wigan<br />http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1562-HUGH-LATIMER-CERTAYN-GODLY-SERMONS-BLACK-LETTER-/130819006918?pt=Antiquarian_Books_UK&hash=item1e756ba1c6David Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-70197276822824299892012-12-12T18:41:50.669+00:002012-12-12T18:41:50.669+00:00Julianne,
Thanks for this really informative comm...Julianne,<br /><br />Thanks for this really informative comment. I've not seen any of the books that were sold, so it's really useful to hear from those who have.<br /><br />KatieKatie Birkwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16430148493526943528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-64948252142180447762012-12-12T15:09:48.248+00:002012-12-12T15:09:48.248+00:00Having read Rob's reply I can't let it go ...Having read Rob's reply I can't let it go uncommented. The problem is the article is factually incorrect and that is where I must agree with Katie that this is sloppy journalism. Many more than 128 books have been sold, but as they were never identifed as coming from Wigan it is impossibe to know exactly how many. They were included in two Bonham's sales in London 2nd October and 6th November and two in Oxford on 25th September and 23rd November. On anecdotal evidence it appears that many more 18th and 19th century books are now floating around the book trade.<br /><br />And the assertion that none of the books were Wigan-specific is also incorrect. Just arrived on my desk is an 18th century book printed in Warrington with the binder's ticket of a Wigan binder. This was in the last Oxford sale. There will be numerous similar examples, if only we had more information available.<br /><br />There were also many books with strong connections to the region - including local provenances, regional printing (important collections of books printed in Manchester and Warrington in particular) and this should have at least led someone from Wigan to consult with other colleagues in the region well in advance of the sale. That is all too late now, and the books are now dispersed across the world, many going into private collections. The council's own statement in its report tabled in August 2011 says 'We have a professional duty of care to ensure that these books are preserved for future generations and made available for research and study. This would be achieved by selling the items to buyers who can ensure this happens.' This is in fact the complete opposite to what has happened.<br /><br />Julianne Simpson<br />John Rylands LibraryJulianne Simpsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-90227633278968809502012-12-10T21:12:31.355+00:002012-12-10T21:12:31.355+00:00Rob,
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I am...Rob,<br /><br />Thanks for taking the time to comment. I am sorry I didn't email you, but I would have had nothing different to say than is expressed here.<br /><br />I don't think we're going to reach an agreement on this particular article. Thanks for pulling me up about my lazy conflation of Update and CILIP the organisation.<br /><br />KatieKatie Birkwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16430148493526943528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-62952736602300273102012-12-10T14:29:08.935+00:002012-12-10T14:29:08.935+00:00Prior to this blog being published I contacted Kat...Prior to this blog being published I contacted Katie and offered to discuss her concerns about the article. The contact was limited by the fact it was through 140 characters of Twitter, but I said I could explain in more detail via email. Katie agreed to this, saying that she too would ‘need more room than Twitter to explain’ her concerns. However following the blog’s publication I was sent a message saying: ‘Haven't managed to write an email yet, but have blogged my thoughts briefly here…’<br />I was inclined to leave it at that, but it has since been pointed out to me that Katie has mentioned CILIP directly in her response to a comment. Rather than give the impression that CILIP is not listening, I will briefly outline my case.<br />The initial accusation was that the news article was not a ‘fair representation’ of the facts. Katie ‘attribute[s] stupid Update article thing to sloppy journalism not an actual CILIP belief that pub libs don't need special collections btw.’<br />As I pointed out to Kate before she blogged this piece, the news article was factually correct – the books have been sold. In my opinion the tone of the article is neither pro nor anti the sale of the books, it is neutral and factually accurate. It is fair to include the council spokesman’s statement as this is the given reason for the sale. I would argue that while this neutral stance does not affirm Kate’s personal view on the matter, it is not ‘sloppy’ journalism. Had it been factually incorrect, then perhaps that assertion would have had more substance. <br />Equally, I would argue that the report is an entirely ‘fair representation’ of the fact that Wigan library services has sold the books, which it claims it could not care for. (Interestingly Kate does point to a detailed comment from Brooke Palmieri, which appears to back-up Wigan’s statement).<br />The article is a news story and was written to inform readers of the fact of the sale. This particular article does not contain any of my ‘opinion’, and the reporting of a news story should not be confused with support (or otherwise) of an event. No news article will ever give a complete picture of a story – whether it appears in Update or on the BBC. Those who read the article are entirely free to make up their own minds about the rights and wrongs of the sale.<br />It is important to note that articles in Update do not necessarily represent the views of CILIP (there is always a disclaimer in the contents section saying as much). If and when it does represent CILIP’s views on issues it will be made clear either by quoting a named CILIP representative or through a CILIP spokesperson. CILIP does not comment on every news story published in Update.<br /> <br />Rob Greennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-67256918785768883362012-12-10T08:43:47.361+00:002012-12-10T08:43:47.361+00:00I am in contact with them, and I've let them k...I am in contact with them, and I've let them know about this post and invited them to comment.Katie Birkwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16430148493526943528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-47774625507236840842012-12-10T08:42:35.277+00:002012-12-10T08:42:35.277+00:00Thanks Michelle for a very interesting counter-per...Thanks Michelle for a very interesting counter-perspective. You're right - I'm certainly being idealistic.Katie Birkwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16430148493526943528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-83490447108168423762012-12-09T23:18:00.953+00:002012-12-09T23:18:00.953+00:00Am also interested to know what Update's take ...Am also interested to know what Update's take is on this. Have you contacted them for comment?Michellehttp://www.libmichelle.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-89632998249085347152012-12-09T22:35:11.114+00:002012-12-09T22:35:11.114+00:00Coming from an info profs perspective, I agree tha...Coming from an info profs perspective, I agree that the piece shouldn't have appeared in Update in this form. But I think there is a misconception here about journalism in general.<br /><br />I studied both PR and journalism as part of my first degree, and have also worked in a newsroom. PR people write press releases to promote their client and/or product. They write them in a way that journalists can just copy and paste or rearrange a few words to make a news story. And this is what journalists do. I think people are under the impression that journalism is all investigative, in the style of Bernstein and Woodward; actually most stories come from the news agenda and press releases. This is particularly true of the trade press, I think. I would guess that all the news in Update comes from press releases. If you look at the previous page (pg 11) it has a similar story headlined 'Mobile service reductions' that doesn't contain an alternative viewpoint.<br /><br />To be fair to the writers at Update, this is standard practice. In addition, if you look at the masthead it shows only one reporter (plus two editors). I would guess he does most of the writing in the publication (that isn't done by contributors). At a rough guess, that's 17 pages in this issue. He has to produce enough content for those pages once every month (in addition to other duties, I assume). I'm guessing he doesn't have the time to take a critical view on every single story that makes it in. <br /><br />Again, as an info prof I don't like how these stories have been presented by the publication of my professional body. BUT as a former journalism student, I can absolutely understand how they came to be there. <br /><br /> <br /><br />Michellehttp://www.libmichelle.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-88903593877730710472012-12-09T19:35:21.373+00:002012-12-09T19:35:21.373+00:00I've been unable to trust anything in the News...I've been unable to trust anything in the News section of Update since it reproduced my local county council's press release verbatim, with no alternative comment. In that case, ten local libraries were closed or re-opened by village volunteers; CILIP took completely uncritically the council line that this would improve services elsewhere in the county, without contacting anyone from the communities concerned, all of whom had reps in communication with the library service. <br /><br />It is somewhat depressing that my professional association is so incurious about the press releases it receives; I don't feel that my employer's money is being well spent when this sort of very lazy journalism is allowed to persist...Lizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02226617138865451849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829453287508418737.post-18051719180529782572012-12-09T19:21:39.582+00:002012-12-09T19:21:39.582+00:00Hi Brooke,
Thanks for such an interesting and use...Hi Brooke,<br /><br />Thanks for such an interesting and useful comment. I can see absolutely that, in pragmatic terms, it's better for the books that they're owned by people or institutions that will care for them properly. It's terrible that the Wigan books had got into such a state, and horrible that this can happen (and does, repeatedly, I fear) with almost no-one noticing, and very little censure of the authorities responsible.<br /><br />My gripe with the Wigan sale is not so much about the individual books, but about the principal of the thing. A council shouldn't be able to disperse cultural assets like this without better, and expert, scrutiny (just as they shouldn't be allowed to let cultural collections get into such bad states). And if books are to be dispersed it could at least happen without spurious comments about how they're not relevant, or that the local people (or scholars) aren't interested in them - when in reality there was no publicity of them. And so on.<br /><br />I hope that this opinion doesn't make you unpopular. I think that we're arguing from the same fundamental position: rare books and collections thereof deserve care, cataloguing, and careful use. <br /><br />KatieKatie Birkwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16430148493526943528noreply@blogger.com